More LEOs behaving badly

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by CATO, May 14, 2012.


  1. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    What I want to know is why the cop driving came right up to someone that supposedly has a gun??? He is the reason the kid was shot because the cop on the passenger side panicked when he had to get out of the car that close to someone with a gun. When the cop that shot got out of the car he had zero time to evaluate the situation and immediately reacted to the treat in front of him. If they would have followed a common sense approach and most likely their procedure for dealing with this, evaluating the situation from a distance before going in, the kid most likely would not have been shot. I blame the cop driving 100% for making this happen and he should be put on meter maid duty because he obviously has no common sense dealing with a dangerous situation.
     
  2. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Real Reason they had to get close, is the Cop couldn't hit the "Broad side of a Barn", any further away that 10 Meters with his Pistol..... so they HAD to get real close to make sure he could actually hit what he was aiming at..... and not any ByStanders.... or Dogs....[sarc1]
     
  3. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

  4. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King |RIP 11-4-2017

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  5. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member



    Police in Washington state fatally shoot man who threw rocks at them - Yahoo News

     
  6. CaboWabo5150

    CaboWabo5150 Hell's coming with me

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  7. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King |RIP 11-4-2017

    Anybody stupid enough to throw rocks at armed men is dangerous on the face of it...real peace officers could have handled it better but are we sad they are no longer in the gene pool?

    I'm not even going to bother watching after reading "men who threw rocks"...according to the way they were probably trained, they probably showed "poor judgement"...according to the law they will most likely walk. Gotta give the street cops lots of support no matter what if they are the shock troops in the war on drugs.
     
  8. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    Don't have much pity for the rock thrower--got what he needed IMO.
    In Gastonia, NC recently an aged vet just came home from surgery and his kids asked LEOs to check on him. They went in a midnight(broke in) and he met them with a 22 pistol. Cops killed him right there in his home. Fellow was probably under meds and disoriented with the lights in his eyes.
     
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  9. Mindgrinder

    Mindgrinder Karma Pirate Ninja|RIP 12-25-2017

    Give me a break. They had 4x enough man power to subdue him and prosecute fairly.
    Throwing rocks aint a threat to more than a cut/bump.
    Deadly force to defend your 4 man squad?
    REALLY?
    I could have took this guy down with a paintball gun.

    Give your head a shake anyone who thinks this is 'ok'.
     
  10. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    Naughty . . . naughty. Proves Lord Akton correct once again. This LEOtard needs to be put in GenPop where a few of his collars now reside.

    Bombshell Interview: Cop Reveals That “Planting Evidence And Lying” Are Just “Part Of The Game” | The Free Thought Project

    Palm Beach County, Florida – Journalists at the DC Post were looking through message boards that are frequented by law enforcement officers, when they found a post where one officer was causally talking about planting evidence on “mouthy drivers” and “street lawyers.”

    The Post then contacted the officer and conducted an anonymous interview with him where he revealed his disturbing perspective.

    The officer revealed the illegal and unethical actions that he is proud of taking on the job. The DC Post has also said that they have verified the officer’s position with the Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office, and they have verified many of the claims that he has made.

    The original post was titled “Tricks of the trade – let’s exchange!” and featured the following message:

    “I have a method for getting people off the street that should not be there. Mouthy drivers, street lawyers, assholes and just anyone else trying to make my job difficult. Under my floor mat, I keep a small plastic dime baggie with Cocaine in residue. Since it’s just residue, if it is ever found during a search of my car like during an inspection, it’s easy enough to explain. It must have stuck to my foot while walking through San Castle. Anyways, no one’s going to question an empty baggie. The residue is the key because you can fully charge some asshole with possession of cocaine, heroin, or whatever just with the residue. How to get it done? “I asked Mr. DOE for his identification. And he pulled out his wallet, I observed a small plastic baggie fall out of his pocket…” You get the idea. easy, right? Best part is, those baggies can be found lots of places so you can always be ready. Don’t forget to wipe the baggie on the person’s skin after you arrest them because you want their DNA on the bag if they say you planted it or fight it in court.”

    Other officers on the board responded by sharing similar stories about how they falsely arrest people who don’t adequately bow to their authority.

    Later in the interview, when the officer was asked if planting evidence happened regularly within his department, he responded by saying,

    “Um, yes it does, on a regular basis. Probably every day in my shift. I work nights on the Road Patrol in a rough, um, mostly black neighborhood. Planting evidence and lying in your reports are just part of the game.

    Then straight from the horses mouth, the officer said that this crooked behavior was actually encouraged by the drug war. Continuing his discussion about planting evidence, the officer said,

    Yes, all the time. It is something I see a lot of, whether it was from deputies, supervisors or undercovers and even investigators. It’s almost like you have no emotion with it, that they attach the bodies to it, they’re going to be out of jail tomorrow anyway; nothing is going to happen to them anyway. One of the consequences of the war on drugs is that police officers are pressured to make large numbers of arrests, and it’s easy for some of the less honest cops to plant evidence on innocent people. The drug war inevitably leads to crooked policing — and quotas further incentivize such practices. It doesn’t help that your higherups all did the same thing when they were on the road. It’s like a neverending cycle. Like how molested children accept that as okay behavior and begin molesting children themselves.”

    When asked if he would get in trouble with the police department for framing people, the officer laughed and said that this type of behavior was actually encouraged.

    Our top boss, Sheriff Ric Bradshaw, supports this behavior and has for his entire career. As with anything, it depends on who you know in our agency. Last year, we had three deputies on the TAC unit, Kevin Drummond and Jarrod Foster, get caught falsifying information for a warrant. They got a pat on the back for a job well done. Just recently, we had a deputy, I think his name was Booth. He was caught completely lying on a car crash. Back a few more years, our Sheriff was involved a massive coverup of the death of two black deputies. He hid the report for years. This is only the beginning. The Sheriff has been involved in falsification of documents and his underling, Chief Deputy Michael Gauger, has been personally involved in an overtime scandal to steal money from the Sheriff’s Office. Does our Sheriff know about this behavior? Of course he does. We have even had a judge outright accuse my agency of committing fraud upon the court in a public hearing. She was one of the ones who saw through all the lying and covering up our department does to get away with the internal crime committed by deputies on a regular basis,” he said.

    Palm Beach County Sheriff’s Office is no special police department, and this officer is not just a bad apple. The problems that are discussed in this interview are systematic, and they occur in every town across the country.

    Just this week, we exposed a police department in Missouri whose officers were forced to make arrests or faced losing their job. This leads to otherwise innocent people being charged on a regular basis.

    Also this week, the Free Thought Project conducted a report to show what happens to cops who try to expose this corruption. Several officers within the Chicago police department were threatened with “going home in a casket” for exposing this same vile practice within their ranks.

    John Vibes is an author, researcher and investigative journalist who takes a special interest in the counter culture and the drug war. In addition to his writing and activist work he is also the owner of a successful music promotion company. In 2013, he became one of the organizers of the Free Your Mind Conference, which features top caliber speakers and whistle-blowers from all over the world. You can contact him and stay connected to his work at his Facebook page. You can find his 65 chapter Book entitled “Alchemy of the Timeless Renaissance” at bookpatch.com.


    Read more at Bombshell Interview: Cop Reveals That “Planting Evidence And Lying” Are Just “Part Of The Game” | The Free Thought Project
     
  11. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King |RIP 11-4-2017

    And yet, right here on the Monkey, where I USED to expect a higher level of rationality we have most who are more concerned about someone MAYBE showing up at work under the influence than the extreme damage done to people and institutions by the so-called "war on drugs".

    After 25+ years in law enforcement, the vast majority of not only police corruption but the cynicism and trampling of citizens' rights by militarized police are attributable to prohibition. Here on the Monkey when I mention the first small step in correcting the situation with a move the majority have finally come to accept, the legalization of a "drug" that doesn't even harm the average user, marijuana, I am accused of calling for the "United States of Potheads" and people who I once thought had functioning brains are shocked when I call him on his idiotic comment.

    People are so brainwashed over the past decades, as evidenced on this very site, that I see little chance to correct the situation and believe that we will just continue to give more power to the police state in order to "protect the children" from drugs until we have nothing left of the country our forefathers founded.
     
  12. Mountainman

    Mountainman Großes Mitglied Site Supporter+++

    Made 3 changes to your post and now I like it.

    I have never had a problem with people using marijuana and know why the law was put into place from the start. Now it is just kept in place as another way that .goob can control people. I have not smoked it for 30+ years, but when it is legal here after July 1st I am going to try some cookies and brownies.
     
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  13. Pax Mentis

    Pax Mentis Philosopher King |RIP 11-4-2017

    What do you mean, you "made 3 changes" to my post?

    EDIT: Never mind, I see 2 of them (still not sure of the third) and disagree with one ("some" as opposed to "most" as my experience has been that most is accurate)and see no reason for the second since many know the incident and I feel no need to personify him for the others.

    By the way, I do not recommend the use of marijuana or any other substance...I just believe that not only does the federal government lack the constitutional authority to intercede in the matter, we do ourselves a disservice at any level of government when we attempt to control what people may ingest should they so desire.

    Second Edit: Actually, after further thought, I will compromise with "many" as opposed to ether "some" or "most". "Most" fits if one only uses the set of those replying but projecting that to the entire group is problematic. Also I realized I cannot even remember the person to whom I referred's user name except that it was 3 letters :)
     
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  14. CaboWabo5150

    CaboWabo5150 Hell's coming with me

    Bottom line: War on drugs needs to end... It has caused way more damage than good. Too many innocent lives lost in the crossfire.
     
  15. Cruisin Sloth

    Cruisin Sloth Special & Slow

    You folks seen :

    Kill The Messenger ? : Kill the Messenger (2014) - IMDb

    A reporter becomes the target of a vicious smear campaign that drives him to the point of suicide(found with TWO head shots with a revolver )

    Worth a watch & decide if DC is on your side .
     
  16. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member


    Recently released footage shows an Amherst, Mass. police officer assaulting a University of Massachusetts student after he recorded a group of officers making an arrest. Though approximately 30 feet from where the arrest was occurring and separated by a fence, law enforcement demanded Thomas Donovan leave the area, and then pepper-sprayed and tackled him before stomping on the young man’s phone to destroy the video. The camera, however, continued rolling and the files were not destroyed.
     
  17. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    And it continues...

     
  18. Clyde

    Clyde Jet Set Tourer Administrator Founding Member

    "He had a screwdriver ...."
     
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  19. CaboWabo5150

    CaboWabo5150 Hell's coming with me

    God forbid a person does any home improvement projects and has to answer the door.
    Why were the police there in the first place ? And what makes them think holding a hand tool and not immediately dropping it is cause for lethal force ?
     
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  20. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Screwdriver killing: Accused 'hiding when man attacked' | Daily Mail Online

    Dnepropetrovsk maniacs - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Man stabs woman with screwdriver at Irving gym

    Police: Man attacked, stabbed with screwdriver | Local News - Home

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    Still think screwdrivers are harmless? I can't really tell from the poor quality body cam footage, if the guy lunged at the last, or not.
    I think there was a non lethal option available, and it should have been used, but hand tools have killed, maimed, and injured, way too many people to be considered "harmless". I throw them as throwing spikes. If you believe them to be harmless, perhaps you would like to stand in front of my target?
    What is that argument we hear and use? " blunt force trauma account for far more deaths than all forms of gunshots"? So, either hand tools are a threat, or not...which is it?
     
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