one man army declares war on LAPD today! Christopher Dorner

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Sherman, Feb 7, 2013.


  1. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Walls do not ring well, for audio pickup via Laser Mic, as they have limited interior to exterior mechanical conduction. This is also why Thermal Pane Windows do not conduct sounds well from inside to out, even when using IR Lasers. The physics is pretty straight forward, IF the sounding surface is a single layer with sufficient surface area, between attachment points, however if the wall is standard Stick Framing, on 16" centers, there isn't much surface area to allow the interior wall to ring, and even less conduction thru to the outer wall, and if there is an exterior layer of Tyvec, it drops off to nothing. ....
     
  2. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Channel, call signs, unit calls, voice recognition, an acknowledgement by cops, as to content (or denial) triangulation, signal strength matching the rest of the transmission (not patched/ dubbed) back ground noise match,......any of these things could point to a fake, or lend credence. Has anyone checked to see if it was logged anywhere, as we hear it, or was it altered. (are there two versions). I have heard only one recording, without a source listed. Like the Sandyhook helicopter footage, where what you hear is a guess as to what is in the trunk of the car. You have to dig around to find out, you are hearing a news crew, not a cop with knowledge. What is the source? How was it recorded? Is it reliable?
     
  3. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

     
  4. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    C'mon! You must be looking for the OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION for the communications!

    lol_cert.
     
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  5. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    Not really. I expect them to down play it as nerves, excitement, or deny it was them. I thought it may have been captured by someone like a sound engineer. Sounds can be dissected, as easily as pictures. Sometimes, it's the dog that doesn't bark.....a change in background noise would show dubbing.
     
  6. Capt. Tyree

    Capt. Tyree Hawkeye

    I wonder how the authorities will handle the poor lethal force discipline displayed by the police on the shot-up blue p/u truck with the two women working their paper route a few days ago. There were at least thirty bullet entrance holes into the back of that truck. I was under the impression that law officers must use lethal force in response to the same, or the threatening appearance thereof. I don't believe those two ladies were even flipping them a hand sign.
     
  7. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    All Dispatch AND Tactical Channels are LOGGED, usually via digital or analog Recordings, and usually these are archived for ten years, for daily events and 25 years for things like this. It would take a significant presents to FAKE, such over the Air, Comms, especially with a KNOWN Dispatcher, running the HQ Comms end, and Acknowledging each and ever Call on channel. Also someone would be looking for the REAL Tactical Comms, if this one was FAKED, and they certainly would be monitoring those channels as well. For such a LARGE interagency Operation, it is very unlikely that ALL THE DIFFERENT agencies would have the same Encryption Setup should they want to use encrypted Comms... Better would be to have a Single Agency do ALL the Tactical stuff for the event, and keep it a very tight Comms System, and tactical control, with the rest doing Security, and site isolation. This sounds exactly like what happened. The Sheriff got the guy hold up, and the LAPD SWAT Team came in to effect, the Tactical resolution, with a preconceived PLAN. Fr om the sounds on the tape, it seems that they were using the Mutual Aid Frequency to effect this operation, with a local Chief Deputy, as the Senior incident Commander, and likely he approved the LAPDs Tactical Plan, prior to implementation. ....
     
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  8. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    That's is why I asked you, I figured you'd know proper procedures , if anyone did. So this is not just a voice in the dark, but official.
     
  9. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Everything I have heard, indicates, that these were REAL Comms from On Scene, by the Tactical Unit, that was brought in, with the Sheriffs acting a containment, and Site Isolation. Incident Commander was at the local Sheriff Station, and monitoring the Active Tactical Comms, and then communication with the non-Tactical Units on a separate Channel... This allowed for The Fire Folks to be Dispatched, and cleared into the Site, off the Tactical Comms Channel, which wasn't heard on the recording. Nothing on the Tactical Comms Channel but actual Calls and local Dispatch... SOP......
     
  10. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    Why no riots for this?

    Burn a black man to death - OK
    Whack a black man a couple 300 times and all hell breaks loose. WTH?

    I guess these yayhoos learned nothing from Waco, eh?
     
  11. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

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  13. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    Yeah, they found ID's of the 9/11 terrorists in a similar fashion. Interesting.. well, not really interesting. Fucked up, more like it. What kind of idiots do they think we are?
     
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  14. Mindgrinder

    Mindgrinder Karma Pirate Ninja|RIP 12-25-2017

     
  15. HK_User

    HK_User A Productive Monkey is a Happy Monkey


    No Riots because, he was not killed in the Hood. It's a territory thing and he was "Working For The Man". It's a lesson in Tribal Relationships and don't cross that LINE.
     
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  16. Quigley_Sharps

    Quigley_Sharps The Badministrator Administrator Founding Member

     
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  17. tacmotusn

    tacmotusn RIP 1/13/21

    I would submit that maybe he wasn't considered black enough. After all he was a cop at one time. He was a military vet. He obviously was pro gun, at least for cops. His education level as a military officer indicates some college if not at least a degree of some sort. This black man is obviously an uncle tom with no street creds.
     
  18. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    I'm still chuckling ironically over the indignant posturing about how he was hanging out right across from a cop shop and wasn't found except for the happenstance of a couple cleaning ladies. The perfect position for taking out a uniform at any convenient moment. He didn't hurt them, did he? I mean other than tape burns, and if one of them hadn't managed to get loose, he would not have been traced as quickly as he was. Lucky turn of events, or more uniforms would have bit the dust. Unintended consequences and murphy will disrupt the best laid plans.
     
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  19. bfayer

    bfayer Keeper Of The Faith

    Yep, boat that won't start, truck with a broken axle, can't properly secure a house keeper. This guy does not sound like the "highly trained" military and law enforcement tactical expert that they made him out to be. Maybe he just missed the day they taught mission planning :)

    But he did carry two wallets with duplicate IDs, so I'll give him props for that.

    I won't lie, I am glad this guy is not around to cause more harm, but there are too many unanswered questions, that I am afraid will never be answered.

    I saw the video this morning of the Sheriff saying "we did not set the cabin on fire on purpose", and he did it with a straight face. I guess he was talking about the Sheriff's office, and the "we" does not include LAPD.
     
  20. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Yea, the Sheriff, used LAPD SWAT to be his Tactical Force... and they had their Game Plan already laid out, long before they were choppered into the location. The Incident Commander wasn't even On-Scene, as he was back at the local Cop Shop, directing Access. Notice that "HE" cleared the Air Space, above the Scene, of ALL Civilian Aircraft, and told the MSM, NOT to Tweet, Message, Text, or Broadcast ANY information about the incident, after they had him surrounded, as well as keeping MOST of the MSM, MANY Miles away, behind Police Lines.... They wanted to keep the actual Operation, concealed, and only THEY would control the Information Released, to the Public, with No Outside confirmation, possible..... does this sound like a Joseph Goobles operation.....
     
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