Some Moron lib is posting a map of households with guns

Discussion in 'Freedom and Liberty' started by CATO, Dec 25, 2012.


  1. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    If we didn't have to pay for our right to own a pistol (both in fiat and in the fact that we need be registered) then this wouldn't be possible.
     
  2. scrapman21009

    scrapman21009 Chupacabra Hunter

    Dwight R Worley 23006 139 Ave Springfield Gardens, NY 11413 (718) 527 0832,
    owns a Smith & Wesson 686 .357 Magnum and has had a residence permit in New York City for that weapon since February 2011.
     
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  3. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    He doesn't live in the area mapped by his journal, so he wouldn't have been collaterally outed by his own employer...but I do wonder how many other employees live in the "mapped zone"?
     
  4. scrapman21009

    scrapman21009 Chupacabra Hunter

    I never said he lived in the mapped area, I just thought since there is nothing wrong with what the paper did, he might want to lead by example.... just helping him out, nothing wrong with being helpful ;)
     
  5. VHestin

    VHestin Farm Chick

    His name is Dwight Worley? That's sad...I feel sorry for him now...o_O
     
  6. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    Keep up the heat – and look who’s got the home address of Cyndee Royle, editor of the Journal-News? | For What It’s Worth
    EDITOR:
    Miss Royle’s married name is Lambert. She lives in White Plains and here is her Facebook page complete with pictures of her and her kids.
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  7. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    [lolol]
    So, this giant bunch wussies find out what it's like. [finger]

    Oh my, would I like to be a UHF bug on the wall listening to those bunch of crybabies crying about personal liberty and security. They're so afraid of people knowing their info that they hire a bunch of Pinkertons.

    The Journal News is Armed and Dangerous | The Rockland County Times
     
  8. -06

    -06 Monkey+++

    In NY after the post ID'd owners addresses someone put the editors, reporters, and owners names, addresses, auto descriptions, and tele numbers out to the public. Turn about is fair play.
     
  9. kellory

    kellory An unemployed Jester, is nobody's fool. Banned

    "Rather than take the map down following the public uproar, the executive board at the Journal News has decided to “stick to their guns” and double-down on their original decision, as they have said a map listing all pistol permit holders in Putnam County will soon to be posted." These idiots just don't have much of a learning curve, do they?[gun]
     
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  10. Sapper John

    Sapper John Analog Monkey in a Digital World

    Some people are just that "Special kind of stupid!"
     
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  11. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    the backlash continues

    Pistol Permit Issue Packs A Punch | Sloatsburg Village NY

    Pistol Permit Issue Packs A Punch

    Posted on 05 January 2013 by Editor
    What happens when a hometown turns on its newspaper? Well, The Journal News is finding out these days as an editorial decision has gathered national headlines and harsh criticism. The now infamous interactive map of pistol permit holders in Rockland and Westchester counties has nearly everyone, from average readers to advertisers to Rockland officials across the spectrum, including the sheriff himself, lining up to throw stones.
    If The Journal News thinks they can intimidate Putnam, they are sorely mistaken. Before I waver, the egghead editors at the Journal News can kiss my white, Irish behind. – New York State Senator Greg Ball (R, C), 40th Senate District.
    The Rockland County Times, one of the first local publications to upbraid the Journal News‘ decision to publish the permit material, has tracked the issue as it caught fire both in Rockland County and nationally. And the blow back against the Journal News has been fierce.
    Upon its first publication, RCT Editor Dylan Skriloff called the Journal News article an “editorial hit-squad,” and said that the paper’s tactics amounted to an effort to “criminalize ordinary, law-abiding gun owners in the area.”
    Friday morning, a group of bipartisan Rockland lawmakers and officials brought together by Rockland Legislator and Deputy Minority Leader Frank Sparaco (R), Valley Cottage, held a press conference to cudgel the Journal News and announce support of proposed state legislation to amend the state law as it relates to the confidentiality of information contained in pistol permit applications. Collectively the group appeared to agree with Skriloff’s initial condemnation. The press conference included Spring Valley Police Chief Paul Modica, Clarkstown Police Chief Michael Sullivan, County Legislators Ilan Schoenberger, Aron Weider and Tony Earl, Clerk Piperato, and the committee leaders of the Republican, Democratic, Independence, Working Families and Conservative Parties.
    Rockland County Sheriff Louis Falco said “it was very, very poor judgment and a poor marketing move on their part to do. Now criminals can go to houses where guns are or where they know they’re not.” Falco said that he had to meet with corrections officers and their unions because inmates were calling out to guards the location of their home addresses. The sheriff said he supported the Journal News removing the information from LoHud and favored a law that would prohibit the media from obtaining pistol permit information.
    Rockland Legislator Sparaco, one of the youngest members of the County Legislature, called the Journal News‘ actions “sensationalist” and that they have placed residents at risk. “This action is deplorable though not illegal,” said Sparaco. “We call upon the editors and owners of the Journal News to remove this map immediately.”
    Putnam County has very publicly rejected the Journal News‘ request for its pistol permit holders. In a statement of support of Putnam County Clerk Dennis Sant, NY State Senator Greg Ball who represents the 40th District boldy called the editors at the Journal News “asinine.” Ball said the paper placed a “virtual scarlet letter on law abiding firearm owners throughout the region.”
    In his statement, Ball also succinctly said:
    “The county clerk has my full support to protect these law abiding citizens and if The Journal News thinks they can intimidate Putnam, they are sorely mistaken. Before I waver, the egghead editors at the Journal News can kiss my white, Irish behind.”
    The RCT also reported that Rockland County Clerk Paul Piperato said nearly 25% of the addresses in the Rockland map are not accurate due to changes in address. Many county registries are not reliable as a source of addresses, Piperato said. As president of the New York State Association of County Clerks, Piperato also said the association, which represents 62 NY state counties, is backing legislation restricting the publication of gun permit registration data.
    With its data dump, the Journal News stepped into an emotional issue that tends to get messy very quickly. Lost in the chorus of catcalls is the fact the what the Journal News did is perfectly legal. Clerk Piperato said he believed that Putnam County would eventually lose in court because state law is very clear on the issue. Article 400, section 5 of the NY Penal Law states: The name and address of any person to whom an application for any license has been granted shall be a public record.
    Reuters reporter Jack Shafer presents a balanced view of what’s now taking place in Rockland County. Shafer cites a recent academic paper called Guns, Privacy, and Crime that explores a case that nearly exactly mirrors the Journal News issue. A local Tennessee paper published a searchable database of people permitted to carry handguns, just as the Journal News did. Burglary actually decreased in the Tennessee neighborhoods that showed a lot of gun permits.
    The guns involved in the Newton, CT shooting at Sandy Hook Elementary school were permitted and legal. Personal information of the estimated 180,000 people in Connecticut that have pistol permits is confidential via CT state law and has been for nearly 20 years. But that may soon change.
    According to WTNH News 8, Democratic State Representative Steve Dargan of West Haven, co-chair of the legislature’s Public Safety Committee, and reportedly considered a friend of gun owners, is proposing that the gun owners confidentiality law be overturned and that the names and addresses of CT permit holders be made public.
    The Journal News hit a very hot button issue. The U.S. market is the largest and most active market for handguns and other small arms in the world. And the U.S. is also the world’s largest arms exporter. With such a pedigree, it’s a wonder that the current rules of engagement appear to work fairly well. The Journal News’ map looked dense with dots enough while showing only hand gun permits. Rifles and shotguns are not registered in Rockland County.
    Press conference photo of Rockland Legislator and Deputy Minority Leader Frank Sparaco (R), Valley Cottage, courtesy of Kevin Zawacki, Patch. The Journal News offices photo courtesy of Fox News.
     
  12. UGRev

    UGRev Get on with it!

    Heh, I grew up in Putnam county. I can say that Putnam is certainly not a place to make a stink in..
     
  13. Mechwolf

    Mechwolf Monkey+

    I checked Oklahoma law.... Only law enforcement or a subpoena can reveal CCW info. I love living in one of the redest of red states.
     
  14. JABECmfg

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  15. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    Yeah, I have to agree. But, on the other hand, what is the actual purpose of printing the addresses of people with guns in the first place? What was their goal in doing this? Could printing those names have caused people harm from overzealous anti-gun bandanistas?

    Possible answers (from their perspective):
    • Public shaming - perhaps non gun-owning neighbors would shun them and the gun owner would change his evil ways.
    • Harassment/confrontation - the hope that perhaps non gun-owners would leave them nasty-grams in their mailbox or do Halloween-type pranks on their property or just confront them and tell them of the evil madness that guns bring on.
    • Informational - allows non gun-owners to steer clear of neighborhoods with heavy gun ownership when purchasing a home or allowing their kids to go to sleep-overs.
    From my daily experience with libtards, my guess is probably they'd say #1 on paper, but they may hope for a little of #2. Always remember, libtards are not logical and they are driven by emotion 100% of the time. You cannot discuss an issue with them without them getting more angry and the debate devolves into an argument.

    Perhaps the only way to fight against something AND discourage further instances of the behavior is to show the other side "what it's like." If I had a genie, one wish would be for the banks that have the accounts of very liberal enterprises/people discontinue service with them. "That's what it's like sir. How ya like them apples Mr. Damon?"
     
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  16. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    Nice goin' you bunch of jack@$$es:

    Journal News gun permit map used by burglars to target White Plains home?

    A White Plains residence pinpointed on a controversial handgun permit database was burglarized Saturday, and the burglars' target was the homeowner's gun safe.

    At least two burglars broke into a home on Davis Avenue at 9:30 p.m. Saturday but were unsuccessful in an attempt to open the safe, which contained legally owned weapons, according to a law enforcement source. One suspect was taken into custody, the source said.

    The gun owner was not home when the burglary occurred, the source said. The victim, who is in his 70s, told Newsday on Sunday that he did not want to comment while the police investigation continues.

    VIDEO: White Plains home on gun database burglarized
    PHOTOS: Arrested and charged | FBI Most Wanted | Notorious crimes
    MORE: The cases that shocked the Hudson Valley in 2012 | Interactive

    "The police are doing a full investigation," the man saidthrough a partially opened front door.

    There was broken glass in the backyard Sunday and a ladder leading up to a second-story window. Neighbors on the street of modest, Colonial homes said they had heard about the burglary.

    The homeowner's name and address were included recently on the controversial interactive map of gun permit holders in Westchester and Rockland counties published on The Journal News' website.

    Neighbor John Mascia said he thought the gun permit database should not have been published.

    "I could [not] care less what they have in their home," Mascia said.

    Police are investigating what role, if any, the database played in the burglars' decision to target the home, the law enforcement source said.

    White Plains police Lt. Eric Fischer confirmed that a burglary occurred but would not release further information Sunday.

    The Journal News has been the target of sharp criticism from gun rights advocates and some media ethicists since running the story and interactive map Dec. 23. The story was published 10 days after the Newtown, Conn., mass shooting that claimed the lives of 20 young children and seven adults.

    A call for comment to The Journal News was not immediately returned.

    Although some good-government groups have come to the defense of the White Plains-based newspaper, some elected officials, including State Sen. Greg Ball (R-Patterson, have complained the permit map could aid criminals.

    "If the connection is proven, this is further proof that these maps are not only an invasion of privacy but that they present a clear and present danger to law-abiding, private citizens," Ball said Sunday in a statement.

    On Monday, Ball will introduce a third bill into the state Legislature intended to keep the names of those who have gun permits private.
     
  17. CATO

    CATO Monkey+++

    BREAKING NEWS: ATTEMPTED GUN BURGLARY TIED TO JOURNAL NEWS GUN MAPS | New York State Senate

    Sen. Ball renews call for immediate removal of maps and unveils legislation
    Law enforcement plans rally to hold Journal News Accountable
    Brewster, N.Y. – 1/13/2013 – Today Senator Greg Ball (Patterson – R, C, I) announced that a burglary has been reported on Davis Ave. in White Plains, New York that evidently ties into The Journal News gun maps. It is reported that the burglar used The Journal News’ interactive gun map to target a home included on the map. Luckily the gun was locked up and no one was hurt.
    “The Journal News has placed the lives of these folks at risk by creating a virtual shopping list for criminals and nut jobs. If the connection is proven, this is further proof that these maps are not only an invasion of privacy but that they present a clear and present danger to law-abiding, private citizens. Former convicts have already testified to the usefulness of the asinine Journal News ‘gun maps’ yet the reckless editors are evidently willing to roll the dice, gambling with the lives of innocent local homeowners,” said Senator Greg Ball.
    Tomorrow, Senator Ball will be publicly unveiling three separate pieces of legislation, all with bipartisan support, among them (S2132), to protect the privacy rights of ordinary citizens; including: law enforcement personnel, victims of domestic violence and private citizens. Let it be clear however, that under Ball’s legislation that has garnered bipartisan kudos and support, law enforcement and all related agencies would continue to have full access to permit information. Senate bill (S2132) would protect lawful gun owners, including thousands of retired and active law enforcement and victim of domestic violence survivors, from having their information publicly disclosed.
    “The same elitist eggheads who use their editorial page to coddle terrorists and criminals are now treating law abiding citizens like level three sexual predators. These bills are critical to keep folks safe and fundamentally protect their inherent right to privacy. I hope all of these bills will be brought to the floor for an up or down vote, and allowed to fail or pass on their own merits and not as part of a large, overarching gun-control package. This is not about the Second Amendment; these bills are simply about commonsense and personal privacy. Publishing this information on a website, as we have evidently just witnessed in the recent attempted gun burglary, provides criminals with a map of where they can steal firearms from lawful owners for later use in the commission of crimes. This legislation is critical,” said Senator Greg Ball.
    In addition to Senator Ball’s legislation, the Vice President of the Affiliated Police Association of Westchester County, Robert Buckley, said in a letter, publishing these maps online is jeopardizing the safety of residents and is irresponsible.
    “The Affiliated Police Association of Westchester County Inc. is putting The Journal News on notice that we will hold [them] accountable for any incident where any of our over 25,000 members are involved with an incident where a criminal or ex-con presents themselves at the residence of one of our members as a result of their name being made public by [their] newspaper,” said Buckley.
    The Affiliated Police Association of Westchester will be holding a press conference on January 15, 2013 at the Westchester County Courthouse located at 111 Dr. Martin Luther King Junior Boulevard, White Plains, N.Y. at 1:00 p.m.
     
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    Dang! If i wasn't already married......;)
     
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