Post Apocalypse Job Search

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by F. Ticious, Mar 19, 2012.


  1. RightHand

    RightHand Been There, Done That RIP 4/15/21 Moderator Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    That looks a bit like a brown water snake which is not venomous either
     
  2. F. Ticious

    F. Ticious Monkey+

    Here is a better picture of it, you can clearly see the fangs
    Display.
     
  3. RightHand

    RightHand Been There, Done That RIP 4/15/21 Moderator Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Looks a bit like a diamondback water snake but I may be wrong. Caution should always be used with water snakes, or really any snakes that you cannot positively identify. Remember, you don't have access to medical attention. You've gotten bad advice on survival forums in the past and I hope you will use that as a lesson.
     
  4. F. Ticious

    F. Ticious Monkey+

    That is probably good advice Mr. Catullus but I am very hungry for some type of meat and I am starting to get attached to Molly and would feel awful killing her for dinner (she has seven little hairless babies in her pouch). She snarls a lot but hasn't really offered to bite me. I am not having much luck catching frogs here but there is a pool with still water where there were frogs before the water level covered it. I caught the snake with the triple hooks from that fishing lure I found yesterday. he is really pissed off and I would hate to let him go again.
     
  5. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    Dude, you just got some more bad advice, that snake is definitely a pit-viper, you are correct in that and it is venomous and ill-tempered even if it doesn't have fishing hooks sticking in it. That is a Cotton-mouth. you can eat them but I don't know what they taste like, Gator could probably tell you; he's a coon-ass and they'll eat anything that doesn't eat them first if you cover it in hot-sauce and serve it with rice.
    If you decide to eat it, cut the head off and bury it somewhere, handle it very carefully, they can still bite even dead and even detached from their body.
     
    Alpha Dog, oldawg and Catullus like this.
  6. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    Huh...Coonass.? Who dat ?
    I would not eat dat...For one they stink da dead fish...Work on your crawfish catching...That was alway's a poorman's meal...Use the serpant's meat for bait...Learn how to turn a little bit of bait into several large meal's...



     
    Seacowboys likes this.
  7. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    This might help make you understand the concept of a crawfish trap a little better. You may can find scavenged materials to make them from or whatever might be available , split cane comes to mind?
    this is a cut and paste so I don't know if it will work or not
    How to make a Crawdad Trap
    a%20Red%20Line.

    Crawdads, also known as crawfish or crayfish, look like a small Maine Lobster. They are found in fresh or brackish water. These are a staple food for the people of Louisiana in the USA.
    Below is a description with photos to assist you in making a trap to capture these delicious critters.

    There are several way to make a crawdad trap including making it from woven sticks, reeds or basket weaving material. See our Survival section. However for this tutorial we will utilized readily available materials that can be purchased at any hardware store.
    Materials required:
    <table dir="ltr" border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td valign="top">
    1 - 2' X 5' Roll of 1/4" hardware cloth (1/2 " could also be used.) (about 6 dollars)
    1 roll of stainless steel tie wire (nylon ties can also be used
    - black last longer) About $1.95.
    In our constructed example we utilized a couple of different methods where possible to give you a choice. Note for safety reasons we recommend folding all cut edges over to help prevent injury on the wire ends. In some instances we refer to the number of 1/4 square grids as a measurement as it is a fairly simple method of measuring. It you are using an alternate type of material you can allow for 1/4'" for each grid.
    Cut a piece of the hardware cloth 2' by 28" long.
    Fold over and in the first 2-3 grid rows along the raw cut edge to prevent you from getting stuck by the sharp wire edges. Results in a cylinder about 8 1/2' in diameter.
    Hold it in a cylinder shape with the 2 folded edges overlapping each other.
    Weave the wire in and out of the grid squares to fasten the two edges together, or use your nylon ties.
    Cut from the remaining cloth either a semicircle ( recommended) with a 9 1/2" radius - or 3 triangles 9" by 7 1/2".
    Gently fold the semicircle in half along the straight edge to create a funnel shape and connect the 2 halves of the straight edges together. If you are using the triangles you will need to connect all 3 pieces together along the the long edges.
    Cut the pointed end off off the resulted funnel shape to make a hole about the size off an old silver dollar or 2" in diameter.
    Insert the funnel into the cylinder. and fasten. Don't be concerned it if seems to be a bit of a mismatch as you can trim off any excess or draw it up where you might be short.
    Next choose a location on the side of the cylinder to place your door. Count off a square of about 18 - 1/4 square grids by 18. Mark the corners, then using a marker draw a line crisscross from corner to corner.
    Cut along the crisscross line, then fold the triangle flaps inside tightly and fasten to prevent them from dropping down. This will give you a nice clean hole to work through.
    Cut a piece of cloth 30 squares wide by 54 long. Fold this in half at the 27th grid. Then with it sandwiched fold 3 grids of both plies of the remaining raw edges. This will make your door.
    Lay the door over the opening, overlapping it by about 3 grids all the way around, and using your tying material create 2 hinges.
    At this point you can decide whether to create a fancy spring clasp or do as we did and just use a tie as a door latch.
    Commercial crawdad fishermen just drop the bait into the trap an allow the crawdads to feed on it until it is all gone or the trap is pulled. However you may choose to either suspend the bait just out of reach, or create a bait box which is fastened to the bottom of the trap, in a location that makes it easy to replenish the bait after you have emptied your catch. If you are making a bait box then cut a piece of hardware cloth in the shape of a cross. We used multiples of of 12 grids to create ours. You then fold and fasten the sides while leaving the top flap as a door.

    This is the same concept as is used in a bait minnow trap except the hole in the funnel is smaller.
    Just so you know: We went out and bought a mass produced commercial Crawdad trap from a local tackle store and baited both our homemade and the commercial with the same bait (chicken) and placed them about 10 feet apart, to see how ours would fare against a seeming proven design. We don't know why but night after night our homemade crawdad trap out did the store bought unit 15 to 1. We would have 60 to 75 after each night and the commercial unit had only about 4 to 5. Go figure. Maybe the vinyl coating deterred them or the size of the hole (which was larger) allowed them to crawl out come daylight. It would be interesting to see hppw it compares to one made out of primitive material and not the material we used. Keep watching.
    <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> </table>

    Place you mouse cursor over the images below for a brief description then click for a larger version

    IMG00054_small.JPG
    IMG00064_small.JPG
    IMG00070_small.JPG

    IMG00055_small.JPG
    IMG00060_small.JPG

    IMG00073_small.JPG

    IMG00075_small.JPG
    See the results of 1 night about 60 keeper size crawdads and this is out of a seasonal creek about 7 feet wide.
    IMG00079_small.JPG cooked_dads_small.JPG

    See the recipes for crawdads

    </td></tr></tbody></table>
     
    Gator 45/70 and Sapper John like this.
  8. F. Ticious

    F. Ticious Monkey+

    That is most interesting and I might have just the thing to construct one from! There was some type of animal cage that washed up on a bar down river. It was too badly damaged for me to repair with my few tools but there was several square feet of wire mesh and I believe I can cut it with my knife and a stone to use as a hammer.
     
  9. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama Monkey++


    Dickinopsec can tell you that someone ownes that cow and doesnt give a rats axx about your 99$ failed divorec sceme. You likley need to relocate really fast because your not dealing with dumbass judjes and lawyers, but people that forgot more about survival than you ever knew about law.
     
  10. RightHand

    RightHand Been There, Done That RIP 4/15/21 Moderator Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Larry, have you been in the home brew again? You're getting pretty mean for a good ole boy
     
    larryinalabama likes this.
  11. Seacowboys

    Seacowboys Senior Member Founding Member

    hey Larry? Why don't you go catch him? I'll bet they give rewards for cattle-rustlers in Georgia!
    "American Cowboy - YouTube"
     
  12. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama Monkey++

    Im sattling up the Unicorn as we speak. Her wings are a little rusty.
     
    Gator 45/70 and Alpha Dog like this.
  13. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama Monkey++


    My my,,,, just trying to keep FT out of trouble. It would be pointless to eat dandilions and snakes just to get shot by a farmer.......Think about it
     
  14. RightHand

    RightHand Been There, Done That RIP 4/15/21 Moderator Moderator Emeritus Founding Member

    Larry, Frank is obviously the annoyance in your life that may just tip the scale so, before that happens, why don't you just add him to your ignore list. I hate to think you are being unnecessarily upset by another member. I would give Frank a warning but up until now, he hasn't done anything that warrants it.
     
  15. Alpha Dog

    Alpha Dog survival of the breed


    Shoot low Sheriff he might be riding a shetlin (lol)
     
  16. F. Ticious

    F. Ticious Monkey+

    Mr. Larry in Alabama, were you one of my clients? I never understand why so many folks don't like lawyers but I never went to their home and told them to hire me; mostly they came to my home or rather, office and asked if I could help them with a legal problem and that is the way I earned my living right on up until the World As We Know It ended.
    If someone wishes to claim those cows, then they should keep them in a more secure area because I am thinking veal cutlets here. This is the last year of the Mayan calender and if someone from PETA wishes to send out a S&D team to get vengeance for those walking meat markets, I am not unarmed and I will defend my right to eat until I starve. If they happen to be your cows, then I apologize and will gladly give snake meat, watercress and a wheelbarrow full of bat poop.
     
  17. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama Monkey++

    Mr FTicious thanks for the good laugh. I dindt know lawyers had any sense of humor.
    If the owner comes looking for the cows I will send my trusty unicorn to save you.
    Thanks for the bat poop offer but poop seems to be pleantyful.
     
    Alpha Dog likes this.
  18. Gator 45/70

    Gator 45/70 Monkey+++

    larryinalabama likes this.
  19. Alpha Dog

    Alpha Dog survival of the breed

    I do agree with Larry that if you were to slaughter one of the cattle and they are owned and counted which is very possible in a time such as this. You could draw unwanted visitors to you camp insearch for their live stock. At which point what you do have could be lost or even a loss of life. So if it does come to the point of taking one down do it away from your area and cover your tracks well. I would suggest late eve so what you leave the hope of cyotes and other scavangers cover up all signs of you involvment
     
    larryinalabama and RightHand like this.
  20. larryinalabama

    larryinalabama Monkey++

    Gator 45/70 likes this.
survivalmonkey SSL seal        survivalmonkey.com warrant canary
17282WuJHksJ9798f34razfKbPATqTq9E7