Life as you know it !

Discussion in 'General Survival and Preparedness' started by Nadja, Jan 20, 2012.


  1. jreb357

    jreb357 Monkey+

    Activate your back-up water plan. If you don't have one, you had better get creative fast.


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  2. Nadja

    Nadja RIP 3-11-2013 Forum Leader

    You know, a few people really have their feet on the ground and it seems like more then a few just plan on adlibbing it. hmmm I would really like to see people getting down to a really set plan, on paper and to be followed to the letter before the oh what now phase sets in. Don't laugh, I have seen this type of action before.

    I start with my food list/inventory. From there , if I were planning on bugging out to wherever, I would have that on paper also. For instance, What will and will not be packed in the car's, which direction I was going to turn out of the driveway to get to what ever path I had chosen.

    Heading out into the country brings up another question or two. Have you traveled the roads , dirt roads etc to get you where you intend to go ? Have you traveled them at night ? Living out here in the really rural area, the first thing to be aware of , is that there are no street lights or signs. Everything looks different at night, as you really can't see much of anything.

    It can be very easy to get hoplessly lost out here or wherever you plan on going to bug out to. You can have a very hard time seeing landmarks if any.

    In other words, a plan is really a plan and not just a sorta maybe kinda thought.
     
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  3. cdnboy66

    cdnboy66 Monkey++

    There are some great points on here.
    I am fairly new to prepping, it has only been maybe 3 years that I have had an interest, but the more I get into it, the further behind I feel somedays
    I am way short on water storage, and it is on the list to improve.
    But holy moley, that list is long.
    I have been trying to figure out the best way to store water both indoors and out, keeping in mind that a mild day in the winter here will be minus 10 celsius
    First of spring, the house gets a new roof, metal for so many reasons.
    the main one being that the ashphalt one is leaking and metal sheds water in a cleaner way.

    To the scenario,
    I'm with a lot of folks, go through the routine I have established....but for us and water, it would mean a walk down to the river which is 1/2 mile, collect all we can and get on with the rest off the day.

    Not so sure my little hamlet would require any "security" perse right away, but if it looked like it was going to be long term, that could change as the sheep begin to flee the cities.
     
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  4. Nadja

    Nadja RIP 3-11-2013 Forum Leader

    Yes, the list is long, but don't try and do everything all at once. The metal roof is a really good investment, as you can get a lot of water from it. Try and just buy a couple of extra things every time you go to the store. You would be surprised at just how fast it adds up. The main thing is that you have a written down list as well as a plan. Make sure everyone in your family is familiar with the plan and will turn to it in times of need. That way you are all on the same page. By doing that , it makes it easier to function rather the guessing that everyone is where they are supposed to be. In times of stress it can be very easy to overlook some things that you have thought out in detail before hand.

    Plan for a variance of different things. Such as , if the economy goes down, it should be a week or two in the making, but if the grid were to go down, it would be instantly. Nuke war ? who knows, but I am sure growing up in the 50's learning to duck and cover, it would be bad.
     
  5. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Bear in mind that the metal roof will shed large lumps of ice and snow with no warning. Make sure there's a stopper above the doors and reinforce the gutters to take the load.
     
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  6. BTPost

    BTPost Stumpy Old Fart,Deadman Walking, Snow Monkey Moderator

    Ghrit, Folks who live in the Northern Climates, (North of 49th Parallel) and build Gutter Systems for the collection of water, KNOW, that you do NOT build them like folks, south of the 49th Parallel. You design them so that only about 1/2" of the gutter sticks out past the Roof Edge, and the Roof is designed with a SNOW Shedding Pitch. This way when the Snow decides to shed, it goes right past the gutter, WITHOUT tearing it off. When it rains, or is melting snow, the water just drips straight down off the Roof Edge, and is captured in that 1/2 lip usually set 6", or more, below the Roof Edge. If you design your roofs, and gutters like down in the FlatLands, you will be rebuilding the gutters, every spring, or until you get the design right, which ever comes first..... ...... YMMV....
     
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  7. ghrit

    ghrit Bad company Administrator Founding Member

    Yup.

    [boozingbuddies]
     
  8. ColtCarbine

    ColtCarbine Monkey+++ Founding Member

    There are times that I wonder if bugging out would be a better option than bugging in.

    When you have lived in the same general area for 30 yrs. and have come to know quite a few walks of life (mostly tradesmen) in this small town. It would be hard to leave as I feel that this community just might be able to come together and help one another rather then turn into what the larger cities will become, absolute chaos. This place still has that community atmosphere and I have seen people come to the aid of others. It's just what you do here, help one another. I'm not so naive to think that people might show their ugly side and have most certainly thought about bugging out and not ruled it out.

    We have a few options for BOL's, all of which are either friends and family here locally in the country, Central Oregon or property In Northern Idaho. Idaho would be the last option though as it is undeveloped land.

    Since I know that we can move an entire household in a day, done it quite a few times moving ourselves and helping others. Bugging out would only take about an hour (maybe 2) to load, since I would not be loading any furniture or appliances.

    Back the truck and trailer up to the house and start loading all my tools.

    Hopefully, there will be room for the food, clothes, camping supplies, tents, sleeping bags, toiletries...... wife and kids.
     
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  9. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Bug in or bug out...both can be viable options.



    It all depends on the particular circumstances that you find yourself in. Only you will be able to make that assessment, based on what you know, and what is feasible at the time. Both options are worth planning and providing for.

    If as you seem to feel, that bugging in is the more viable option, and there can be many advantages to doing that...then, work on an action plan to make that work best for you. However, making provision for activating a bug out option, and having the wherewithall for doing so, will give you much more flexibility in choices and decision making, should the time come that the bug in option is noticeably failing.

    Contingency planning for bugging in and bugging out, needn't be an either / or proposition.
     
  10. Nadja

    Nadja RIP 3-11-2013 Forum Leader

    Bugging out as a second option is always a good plan. You never can tell what may happen. Even if your very comfortable in your present environment, anything can happen.
     
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  11. Brokor

    Brokor Live Free or Cry Moderator Site Supporter+++ Founding Member

    There's a plethora of information here concerning CME's and the effects they have on the Earth.


    This alone is a very plausible reason to prepare.

    About the video: Ben Davidson explains how the sun can trigger the #1 risk to earth, based on severity and likelihood, and the current state of earth’s magnetic reversal, including how our protection from solar energy is weakening with it. In the second half of 2015 several minor solar upticks (100x weaker than ‘big’ ones) caused geomagnetic events we would expect from the only the largest flares every decade or so. This trend is expected to continue and it is not a pretty picture for the coming decades. Website: Suspicious0bservers - Space Weather | Solar Activity | Weather | Earthquakes
     
  12. chelloveck

    chelloveck Diabolus Causidicus

    Thankyou for necro-reviving this thread Brokor.....it has also revived several posts of Nadja (Vale Nadja) and of ColtCarbine, whom I hope is still in the land of the living, but whose presence has not been felt here for quite some while.
     
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