Media: FBI/DHS Raid Michigan Militia

Yep. When one hand gets the concentrated effort and attention, the magician will switch something to the other hand. Dunno which pocket the other surprise is hiding in, but for sure it's there.

 

The wordS of the Hutatree militia are posted earlier. Make of it what you will, but these are not my words.

1. You are taking this personally in a futile attempt to justify your religious beliefs. I don't care what an individual's beliefs are, the fact I am debating is that the militias are under attack here -and the religious extremists who also belong to their own private militias provided the catalyst to arm the government with the assault.

2. The average religious person is not to be lumped into the same category as these extremists, and I cited Robertson and the Neo-Cons in relation to the right wing religious movement because they play a critical role in this "game", like it or not. People who "go to church" and "write their Congressman" are not part of my assessment unless they are also members of extremist militias like Hutatree.

3. Another possibility you fail to recognize is that we still have no idea how many of these Hutatree militants actually watch the 700 Club or who may be avid Neo-Cons. Since we do not know for certain, this is a non-issue (for now), but the comparison is still on the table and shouldn't be as easily discounted as you proclaim.

4. I do not understand how you can be so obtuse when it is evident that this maneuver has been orchestrated to send a message to ANY person who allies themselves against the "unrighteous" government and/or assumes the role of religious superiority.

 

Just in from my source:

I don't know any details yet. Hoping it's just a rumor. We will see soon.

 

As Predicted, FBI Agent Discovered at Center of Alleged Hutaree Conspiracy


The FBI had an informant inside the Hutaree group and he participated in the alleged conspiracy to kill law enforcement officers, according to The Wall Street Journal today.

In sworn testimony, Thomas William Piatek is described as a Cooperating Witness and an undercover FBI agent.

(Follow links above for details and complete story)

 

SOP for alphabets. They get an agent inside a group and then start trying to coerce them into doing something illegal, ie: build bombs, convert weapons to full auto, plan or discuss insurection or murder. "Bomb throwers" we used to call them. But, if these morons were stupid enough to actually build pipe bombs or discuss killing someone then they deserve to be arrested, for stupidity is nothing else.

We had a guy in a group in Texas that was so blatant that it was pathetic. They got the guy on video encouraging them to convert some weapons to full auto and showing them how to do it. They performed a citizens arrest and took him and the evidence to the FBI office in Dallas. He was an undercover Ftrooper and he wasn't seen again. Probably transfered to Alaska!!

Just a clarification. Randy didn't saw off the barrell under 18". He knew that was illegal. He sawed off the barrell but the stock had been cut off before (probably for a youth) and that made the entire weapon less than the allowed (IIRC) 26". How many know that the entire length is also regulated?

 

This will increase as they program/condition the sheep to be very wary of the gunowner next door. Ultimate demonization of gun 'nuts' is the aim.

 

Savage Caller: Hutaree Member Planned to Run for Office, Member of Campaign for Liberty

Another angle to consider.

 

Often thought that, too. Tribal groups are good, but takes lots of time to organize and (especially) keep under the radar. Conflict will make for strange allies, and it often takes conflict to expose how close interests really are between people that don't otherwise speak up. In the meantime, leaderless protests will be the mainstay. (Think Tea Party for starters.)

 

I came to that conclusion a number of years ago after some casual involvement with a few groups. There are too many opportunities to cross the line from simple discussion to seditious statements. Toss in some fringe folks or a few provocateurs’ and you have a controlled burn just waiting for an unexpected windstorm.

A community network is good and vital.