Ammoman.com be very careful

Not my story




This is a simple purchase gone very bad.
Please take a moment and read this whole deal.

A couple weeks ago I bought some .223 ammunition online.
That is how simple it started. It was 1000 rounds of .223
military surplus for $250. The price was right so I jumped on it.

Well the next day I was looking at my bank statement and I was
charged twice $500.00. So I contacted him and he said he would address this issue.
He never did. Then about a week later a package was left on my porch.


UPS left a package on the porch without a signature.
It just so happens it's 500 rounds of 45 A.C.P. So I call UPS
and they say Eric did not say to have it signed for on delivery.
So UPS is just doing there job.

When I spoke to Eric he said I got what I ordered. I sent every single
thing I could to prove him wrong. Now he is mad and will not pay for me to send him back the .45 ammo. And he will not credit my bank account. So he puts in a claim in to UPS. and said he was going to file a claim with the police. That I was scamming him. That's a long story short. He also is blocking my emails and phone calls.
So I can't contact him.

He is in New Jersey. If I send him the package back
and he doesn't credit my account. Then he has my $500.00 and I don't have squat.
I can't help but wonder if he did not know what they sent me.
It could be possible he sent my package to anywhere land.

I was pretty sure you had to sign for Ammo. just to prove you got it and you are of age. Had he asked for a signature
the pistol ammunition was NOT what I ordered. And just would have not accepted the package and sent it back.

As of 10/28/2006 VISA has managed to get my money back
I had to prove every single thing. From his P.O. all the way to me sending him back the 45 ammunition tracking order.

He claimed to file a police report on this matter. I just wanted you to know my side. I think Eric at ammoman.com should be audited for not having the correct paper work. from what a person buys
online. What kind of ammunition that person was
shipped. If it was received and the order was correct. And if the person was of age.

Well after 3 weeks of dealing with this crap I got things straight.
As suggested I went to my bank, UPS ,New Jersey police and the
BBB.

It was a time consuming providing all the documents I kept from the purchase.
Through the very end of this mess. After proving to all the people and places that I in fact ordered 1000 rounds of .223 .
And I never ordered 2000 rounds. Then I had to prove I never ordered 500 rounds of .45 ACP.

I even used the very same documents he sent me confirming the order.
Bank statements, UPS tracking codes and ALL the emails of ammoman
and myself going back and forth. Including the email block he put me on.

Then I sent him back the .45 ACP I never ordered.
I needed that tracking number from UPS. My credit union got back the second charge
and credited my account. I can't tell you how much stuff I had to go through
to get things straight.

In my opinion- people order ammunition off his website Ammoman.com
Then he charges them 2 times. Then he sends whatever he wants to the customer.
After he gets his money. The customer calls and complains about the double charges.
He claims he will fix it, he don't. Then the customer calls and complains.
Not only did Eric send the wrong ammunition it was only 500 rounds.
Then he threatens them with police reports, and UPS reports.
At that point UPS is at fault or I'm running a scam "In Eric's mind".
Next he accuses me of a scam.

For this scam to work.
I would have to order 1 box of 1000 rounds of .223 rifle rounds. Hoping to get charged twice? Hoping that I get something I did not order or want.
To top it off it was only 500 rounds of Wolf.45 A.C.P pistol ammunition. For a dollar a round! Why would I run a scam
so Eric at ammoman would get my $500.00, and I would end up with
$100.00 worth of ammunition?

I can't believe this is not US mail fraud. Or legal for that matter.
Some 10 year old kid could have the 1000 rounds I ordered as far as I know.
No signature was required by Eric when the package was delivered.

Below are emails of what Eric sent me.
And the UPS tracking investigation he reported.

----- Original Message -----
From: AMMOMAN.COM
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 4:22 AM
Subject: POLICE REPORT FOR AMMOMAN.COM


Would you like us to file a claim for the ammunition that you claim you did not receive?
We can start the process right away.(SEE BELOW)
Ammoman.com
Hotmail acct?
Restricted phone number?
Didn't get a thing until we called the police and now you claim it was a case of 45, you received instead?
We are starting to wonder about this scam.

Please comply with the police report and read the return policy very close.
You got what you ordered, but we will still accept the return.
Glad you stopped the scam about not even getting it.
That will aid in the claim and police report.



You got what you ordered.
Stop the scam.
We saved all the e-mails, even 6 days after you got it and claimed you got nothing.
We deal with guys like you from time to time.It's left on the porch and they think since they didn't sign for it, they can claim they didn't get it
That is until the police got involved.
It time you learned a lesson about scamming.

----- Original Message -----
From: AMMOMAN.COM
Sent: Friday, October 20, 2006 4:46 AM
Subject: Re: returning Ammo I did NOT order


Take a picture and show us what you got with the label from us on it.
We don't believe you after 6 days of saying you never got anything.
Now tell us how you can't take a picture.
Your scams are anticipated.We are one step ahead of you Who can believe you now???????????????

Original link is dead- was posted at: CMP Forums

 

Ammoman scamed some poor guy earlier this year by miss representing a rifle as a "bring back" but, turned out to have an import mark on it. A very lengthy discussion (about 300 posts) on ar15.com about his misdealings. He was actually kicked off that website.

Beware, this guy is someone not to do business with!

 

Interesting, you joined yesterday and your first post is to this thread.

 

I've only done business with Eric in person at Bulletfest - never had a problem.

Internet is a double edged sword. I've had good and bad luck with vendors but man, any bad transactions can go viral quick.

 

welcome bob